Danny and Michael Philippou spent their childhood smashing into each other from increasingly elevated heights.
A brutal (and since removed) YouTube video of their "epic" childhood wrestling matches featured the 11-year-olds crashing through tables, flipping kids over and bashing them headfirst into the ground, and jumping off everything from ladders to fences to roofs.
After surviving their homemade WWE, the twins went on to create viral YouTube sensation RackaRacka, where 6.7 million subscribers enjoy their funny, wild and sometimes truly bonkers stunt videos.
Now, they've released their own horror film with A24, the mega entertainment company behind hits like Everything Everywhere All at Once, Midsommar and Hereditary.
Talk to Me follows a group of teens who experiment with an embalmed hand that conjures spirits. The friends find that possession is their new favourite high, but the stakes escalate when things go wrong.
Plus, it's all set in their hometown of Adelaide — one of the spookiest places around.
We speak to the chaotic duo about what possessed them to make this movie.
Were you the kind of kids who would've used the hand?
Danny: Yes. And we're the adults that would as well. I think if the hand was a thing, I'd have a very close group of friends that I would at least experiment with it.
Michael: I would see who it is first before letting them in [to possess me].
How did all the childhood stunts and wrestling start?
Michael: With no parental supervision.
Danny: We were just very aggressive kids for some reason that had a bit of freedom and [wanted] to cause some carnage.
Did you do anything super crazy that your parents still don't know about?
Michael: Once we were filming in a house that was still getting built — I apologise for this by the way, we were very young — but we went in, and they were putting all the fittings in for water.
We were taking all the fittings off, and it was spraying water, and we were pretending that it was like water powers. But then we couldn't get the fittings back on.
So, we left, came back an hour [later] and the whole house was flooded.
Danny: OK, so you're admitting to vandalism on screen.
Michael: …Yeah.
You've talked about how the possessed hand in Talk to Me is a metaphor for using reckless behaviour as an outlet for pain. Do you look back at your own youth with an adult eye?
Michael: Some of the dangerous stuff you look back and you go — whew, you really didn't know, kid, how close you came to dying that day.
Danny: Yeah, a lot of kids like that, that are doing crazy things, need someone that they look up to, to help guide them to a better path. We were so glad to have had that.
[Our] friend's older sister Nelly helped steer us into a less delinquent-y path, thank god.
She was just this awesome older figure that I really, really looked up to. She was so cool and so protective and I admired her with every part of me. So that Riley/Mia relationship [in the film] is definitely based on me and Nelly.
Michael: In our neighbourhood we'd start trouble and then run back to Nelly and Ben (her brother), and they'd save us.
In the film, we see teens filming each other's possessions and posting them on social media. What was the most messed up thing you saw online as kids?
Danny: One of the big inspirations for Talk to Me was [what happened to] a neighbour that we watched grow up.
[At one point], he was experimenting with drugs with his friends. He was having a negative reaction, on the floor and convulsing, and everyone that he was with were just filming him and laughing at him. So, I remember that was engraved in my brain, and that footage really scared me.
Michael: That, and 2 Girls 1 Cup.
Did you watch it in full?
Danny: No! How could you possibly?
Michael: You know, I don't want to see that stuff, but there's that dark curiosity I think people have; you just have to watch that thing.
What about movies? Were you scarred by a horror film as kids?
Danny: My first time being really terrified in a movie was [in] Alien 3. It was [when] the alien was taking over some guy's body. I just remember his face being impaled, him like screaming. That scared the crap out of me as a kid.
Michael: Mine was Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2003. When she gets thrown down the basement by Leatherface and then her friend's hanging up by a meat hook and is like "kill me!" and she starts stabbing him. I was like: "I gotta get outta here."
I swear I was hearing chainsaws for the next couple of months.
Do you hope your film scars some kids?
Michael: Yes! In a positive way.
Danny: I think that it's a rite of passage, a growing up thing, to watch something you're not supposed to watch. So, I'd love Talk to Me to scar some people for sure.
Talk to Me will be in cinemas on July 27.
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